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EDIT According to another thread, these comments were a result of 4chan brigading, as were the votes. Moreover, the AMA itself is likely moncler bambino outlet fake, since only a few SS men are alive today, none off which fit the description given by OP.
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The other half seem to take “thank you for your service” as an expression to the individual, rather than the institution. It not gratitude for being a cog in the Nazi machine, its appreciation for being an individual in a profession of arms. For sleeping in the dirt and the mud, for being shot at, for waking up and climbing in a piumini moncler scontatissimi steel death trap every day and watching your brothers die. The individual didn wake up and say “fuck jews” and deserve credit for that; the individual woke up and said “I should serve” and deserves credit for that.
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